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Re: [¼Æ¾Ç]¨Da.b?

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¥Ñ Raceleader ©ó ¬P´Á¤T ¥|¤ë 02, 2003 6:01 pm


scsnake, you can share, but do not say ¬DÆ]©Ê sectence
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¥Ñ Searchtruth ©ó ¬P´Á¤T ¥|¤ë 02, 2003 6:03 pm


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¥Ñ Raceleader ©ó ¬P´Á¤­ ¥|¤ë 04, 2003 5:52 pm


separate cases

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¥Ñ Raceleader ©ó ¬P´Á¤­ ¥|¤ë 04, 2003 7:21 pm


I can find some answers

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¥Ñ Raceleader ©ó ¬P´Á¤­ ¥|¤ë 04, 2003 7:27 pm


logk, log2k, log3k cannot be all positive or negative...

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¥Ñ Raceleader ©ó ¬P´Á¤­ ¥|¤ë 04, 2003 7:43 pm


This is only my guess

a,b,k¡Ú0
After testing, k¡Ú1/3, 1/2, 1

If 0¡Õk¡Õ1/3

logk=-(ak+b) ---(1)
log2k=-(2ak+b) ---(2)
log3k=-(3ak+b) ---(3)

(1)-(2):
log(1/2)=ak

(2)+(3):
log(2/3)=ak

Which is impossible

If 1/3¡Õk¡Õ1/2

logk=-(ak+b) ---(1)
log2k=-(2ak+b) ---(2)
log3k=3ak+b ---(3)

(1)-(2):
log(1/2)=ak

(2)+(3):
log(6k2)=ak

6k2=1/2
k=1/¡Ô12 (Rejected)

If 1/2¡Õk¡Õ1

logk=-(ak+b) ---(1)
log2k=2ak+b ---(2)
log3k=3ak+b ---(3)

(1)+(2):
log(2k2)=ak

(3)-(2):
log(3/2)=ak

2k2=3/2
k=¡Ô3/2

If 1¡Õk

logk=ak+b ---(1)
log2k=2ak+b ---(2)
log3k=3ak+b ---(3)

(2)-(1):
log2=ak

(3)-(2):
log(3/2)=ak

which is impossible

k=¡Ô3/2
After checking a, b value, it does not fix value

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¥Ñ ¯Á¬¥¦è ©ó ¬P´Á¤­ ¥|¤ë 04, 2003 7:55 pm


This is answer:
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¥Ñ Raceleader ©ó ¬P´Á¤­ ¥|¤ë 04, 2003 8:12 pm


what is the answer of t?

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¥Ñ Raceleader ©ó ¬P´Á¤­ ¥|¤ë 04, 2003 8:17 pm


Since we cannot find the REAL root of t, so this has no solution, right.

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¥Ñ Raceleader ©ó ¬P´Á¤­ ¥|¤ë 04, 2003 8:18 pm


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You should give out the exact value of t 1st, if no, how to determine a and b

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¥Ñ Raceleader ©ó ¬P´Á¤­ ¥|¤ë 04, 2003 8:20 pm


If the value of t cannot be determined, just know their ratio, assume t=1 can also ok.

log1=a+b
log2=2a+b
log3=3a+b

What is a and b?

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